Timothy Koconas Wrote:
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> I went to the Old Brookville Police Department
> once because of an incident that happened while I
> was at CW Post.

> I got a bad feeling when I was in that
> staionhouse, a very bad feeling indeed.

Hello, Timothy.

It appears you are not the only American citizen who was left with a sour taste in his mouth after visiting OBPD Headquarters.

At least you were not arrested or threatened with being arrested by "professionals" in uniform.

Here is a webpage describing briefly this citizen's encounter with Old Brookville crime fighters:

[www.panix.com]

(back-up copy) [licab.250free.com]

Hello,
I also met a person from the DA's office. It was regarding another situation and he summarily dismissed my complaints. This had to do with a police department that did not do the right thing with regard to a situation in which I called for assistance for my mother who was sick. The following day this person was at the local village police station. Apparently they invited him to the department to talk of my complaints.
I have no idea why the public would be naive enough to trust the police. Some of these people are okay and some are not. However, I do think in many cases the "okay" cover for the "not okay" when the "okay" should report wrongdoing. Does this make them all "not okay?" I do not think so. These people are caught up in politics. It is a situation many face. Do we report wrongdoing if it might affect our job and livelihood, not to mention that it may anger our co-workers, or do we look the other way? A moral dilemma indeed.
That's all I am going to write. I hope things get better and we everybody is on the up and up. It is our responsibility to do the right thing. The Bible tells us that, "For it is God's will that by doing good you should put to silence the foolishness of ignorant men."
We are accountable for our actions and God has the final word.
Bye

Timothy Koconas Wrote:
> I have no idea why the public would be naive
> enough to trust the police. Some of these people
> are okay and some are not.

Sadly, I agree with you. Unfortuntely lawyers are the only protection we have from police officers who do not adhere to their training or the law. And when you consider most attorneys will not pursue a case against the police without first collecting many thousands of dollars for their service, most of the public is pretty much defenseless against police officers who engage in misconduct or corruption.

> However, I do think in
> many cases the "okay" cover for the "not okay"
> when the "okay" should report wrongdoing. Does
> this make them all "not okay?"

In the police culture, an officer can expect to be ridiculed and ostracized if he or she adheres to his or her training and reports misconduct committed by a fellow officer.

In the city pd an officer who "rats" on another cop can expect to have his tires slashed, his locker thrown in the shower and a variety of other nastiness directed at him or her. Obviously this type of response sends a loud and clear message to other cops.

> These people are caught up in politics. It is a
> situation many face. Do we report wrongdoing if it
> might affect our job and livelihood, not to
> mention that it may anger our co-workers, or do we
> look the other way? A moral dilemma indeed.

I'm sure most whistle blowers struggle before doing the right thing.

> We are accountable for our actions and God has
> the final word.

I've always believed it is the Grim Reaper who gets the final word.

I am responding to John M. comment. I wrote,
"We are accountable for our actions and God has
the final word."
John M. Wrote,"I've always believed it is the Grim
Reaper who gets the final word."
I am not quite sure why John wrote this. Maybe he
is responding to my comment and reading it as a doom and
gloom comment. It is not meant to be that. It is meant
as a comment intended to convey the message that we are
not the judge and jury. We should not condemn others, nor
should we judge others. Are we so above it all that we can
criticize others?
I believe the Bible says it very well. "It's God will that
by doing right we should put to silence the ignorance of
foolish men." When we become filled with vitriol we are not
doing any good for ourselves and we are probably not as able
to "do right" in our lives when we harbor all kinds of negative
emotions.
I must say, even if one does not believe in all the mystical
aspects of the Bible, the basic philosophy is instructive. For
example, I believe most people feel The Ten Commandments are
laudable.
We all have our faults and we all have a long way to go
before being perfect.
One other thing and then I will not be writing anymore. The
decline in morals in our society is pervasive. Sociologist call
this type of decline "anomie." I see this decline throughout
society. Many people seem to just do whatever they want, with
no regard for anybody else. There is peer pressure too. Then there
are competitive aspects. For example, a business owner may suffer
a competitive disadvantage if other owners are violating the rules
and thereby saving money and he plays it straight. Another example
is with steroids, in order to compete some athletes may have felt
they had to use steroids because others were using them.
Lastly, I am neither democrat nor republican. I am for
peace and prosperity. I must admit, I am a graduate of
Queens College 1988, 1997 and 2005 (City University of New York) and some of
my ideas were shaped through my education there.
Bye

According to NEWSDAY:
After a 47-year career with the Garden City Police Department, Ernest J. Cipullo retired as commissioner on a Saturday in September 2006. He began collecting his $100,132 annual pension.
Two days later he went back to work t the same job and has continued to work as commissioner and earns a salary of $175,434 a year, bringing his annual income to $275,566.
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It is hard to believe that Cipullo of the Garden City Police Department can get a full-pension and full-pay as well. He retired and they hired him back for the same job. I can not understand why the village did not take their time and find a person to replace him and then let him retire. He joined the police force in 1962 and has been commissioner for 25 years. That is long enough to find a replacement so they did not have to hire him back.
Also, maybe they should have hired an interim (acting) commissioner until they appointed a permanent commissioner.
Taxes are high enough without having to pay the commissioner more than a quarter million dollars a year. It makes me wonder work he does that is so important that it worth paying him so high a salary? Are there not others who can do the same work for far less money?
I would be interested in knowing all the mechanics of the situation. At what point was the commissioner given an offer to have his job back? How diligent was the village in their search for a replacement for the commissioner? Who decided to offer the commissioner his job back and what checks and balances were in place so one person could not make the decision unilaterally?
I have never heard of this type of thing before, where a person retires, then gets re-hired for the same job,and collects a full-pension and full-pay.

I personally think that Officer Buonora is a disgrace as a police officer and as a person. The only reason that he got off easy was through his connections. If we cant trust cops to tell the truth, who can we trust? He should have been fired on the spot. Anyone else in his position would have been. He deserved the worst punishment possible and deserves no second chance as a cop.